Are you in favour of the City taking over Bramcote ?

The following is an extract from ‘Focus on Bramcote November 2013’ –

Over the last few months Nottingham City Council have spoken openly about their desire to draw the southern part of Broxtowe, including Bramcote, into an enlarged city council area. The Liberal Democrates believe that this would be a very bad move for Bramcote as it would end up being treated as just a small suburb of a big city, rather than a unique and wonderful place, to live. However we would like to know your views. We have set up a one question survey on our web site asking whether you would support this move or not and we would be really grateful if you could take a minute to complete it. If you don’t have access to the internet would you please drop us a line (you could use the form overleaf if you like). When these proposals come forward from the city we want to be able to address them knowing what local residents think.  To give you views click here.

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19 Responses to Are you in favour of the City taking over Bramcote ?

  1. Debbie W says:

    I note this from the above post: The Liberal Democrates believe that this would be a very bad move for Bramcote as it would end up being treated as just a small suburb of a big city, rather than a unique and wonderful place, to live.

    May I ask please, what difference would there be to Bramcote if it was to be treated as a just a small suburb of a big city? At the moment, I can see there are a lot of benefits of being a city resident. As far as I know, city residents receive discounts in price for many things, events at Wollaton Park spring first to mind.

    Can someone please explain to me what benefit there is to being a ‘unique and wonderful place to live’ in comparison to ‘being a small suburb or a big city’? Surely this area will remain ‘unique and wonderful’ because, IMO, what makes a location the way it is, is the community within it, the people who live there. The same people will still live here, so why would it be a problem?

    Can the Lib Dems please expand on their suggestion the move would be bad and list the pros and cons?


    • David Watts says:

      Hi Debbie

      The downside to such a move would be considerable. I’ll list the main ones that come to mind:

      1) At the moment Bramcote is one of thirteen wards in the borough. It is easy to make our voices heard at the council and make sure that Bramcote is properly considered.The same applies for Stapleford, Beeston, Attenborough, Chilwell and Toton. In the city each of these areas would lose their influence. Given the pressures that there are on the city council budget at the moment and the social needs in many city centre wards we would face a significant cut in spending in each of our wards.

      2) The city are under pressure to provide more building land within their boundaries. They have already breached the green belt by agreeing to build houses on Nottingham Business Park and propose expanding right down to Strelley village. In other words they are already wanting to expand to their maximum limit to the west of the A6002. If they got the south of Broxtowe under their control they could carry on building right down Coventry Lane to Stapleford.

      3) Council tax is higher in the city than in the borough and has been for many years. Even with the hike proposed by the new Labour authority in the county council this will still be the case. As a result every resident would have to pay more, but would probably (for the reasons set out at 1) get a worse service.

      4) An expansion of the city boundaries would risk an expansion of the workplace parking levy to hit firms in Broxtowe as well.

      On the plus side of the proposals there are the discounts that you mentioned. I’m afraid that I’m struggling to see any others.


  2. Steve Carr says:

    The City want our green space to build on.

  3. Nick Palmer says:

    I’m a bit surprised to see the LibDems suddenly seeking to adiopt this issue – I wrote about it back in September with a view to heading it off:

    Lots of people voiced opposition then; I’ve not heard further and my impression is that the idea, which was always tentative, has been dropped. Do the LibDems have any reason to think otherwise?

    That doesn’t mean that projects which affect the wider conurbation, such as transport, shouldn’t be jointly examined by City and County. When the County was Conservative-run, they routinely blocked effective cooperation for partisan reasons, but fortunately that’s in the past.

  4. Peter R says:

    I think this is another typical Lib-Dem scaremongery trick of creating an issue, the issue doesn’t take place and then they try and take the credit for it not happening!

  5. Mike Johnson says:

    Comment received from Steve Carr:
    It’s nice that Nick Palmer agrees with our position. And as for scaremongering, no we are not. City Labour chiefs are not even attempting to hide their desires. Such a move would need an Act of Parliament. That is not possible under the present coalition as the LibDems insisted that no more local government reorganisation take place before 2015. What will happen then. I suspect that the might of Nottingham Labour Party will be much stronger than Nick Palmer even if he is elected our MP.

  6. Barry Morrison says:

    It seems to me that the City Council got their way with the tram that should probably get their way with taking Beeston into Nottingham City..It won’t matter that nothing can be done before 2015 because the agreement will have run out by then and the Lib Dems in government will be history

  7. David Watts says:

    Nick Palmer is evidently unaware that the councils to the East of Nottingham, Rushcliffe, Gedling and Newark and Sherwood, signed an accord last week to work together to ensure that if the city does seek to expand its boundaries they do not do so to the East. Broxtowe has been left to fight alone and I’m afraid that if Nick thinks that this has all gone away he is far more optimistic than me about things. The City Council are very keen to expand and have spoken openly about it. This desire hasn’t gone away.

  8. Joan Wade says:

    The BBC has been reporting that the proposal for a larger City of Nottingham is being driven by Conservative councillors. (See link) At the moment there appears to be a lot of heat and very little light being put on this issue. Robert Howard, who writes on the Lenton Park Views blog, has at least put together some detail on the different council tax rates in the area. The City rate is shown as being lower than some of the surrounding areas but is shown as being higher than Broxtowe’s rate. Could Mr Watts or Mr Carr point us to the open discussion that they keep mentioning? Presumably this must be documented somewhere.

    • Joan Wade says:

      The latest Liberal Democrat flyer pushed through my door May 2014 once again asserts that the Labour controlled City Council wishes to take over Beeston. It seems somewhat unlikely that this is high on the agenda but given that the claims are being repeated please can I ask Mr Carr or Mr Watts if they now have an answer to my question. Can they point to any source of such speculation other than that generated by their own literature and the link I have provided.

  9. Javid Kayani says:

    It would be interesting to see the results of a poll which said “do you think we should be lumped together with Eastwood, Brinsley and Kimberley” ?

  10. Steve Talbot says:

    I do not think that an enlarged Nottingham City would be to the benefit of the residents of Bramcote, Stapleford etc. Our Borough Council seems to be making a good job of running the services in our Borough and hope that they be allowed to continue.

  11. Steve Barber says:

    Thanks Steve (Talbot), I think we do. But we do work much better when councillors aren’t trying to score petty political points on imaginary problems.

    Let’s sort out the real issues….together.

  12. Barry Morrison says:

    Which imaginary problems would they be Steve?

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